Feminism and anime

[unoduetre]

OK, I think that's all the arguments. I hope I presented them in a clear and understandable way.

[HentaiSenpai]

What if you were forced by some circumstances to sell your body? E.g. a violent, stronger than you person threatening you? (Many prostitutes are in this situation.)

The problem is that often it's not the prostitutes that offer their bodies for sale but e.g. their pimps.

I agree with you. That's why the real world prostitution industry is not a good thing. This would not apply in their fictional world where we are talking about the very rare cases of real world prostitution.

As an example of someone reviewing their naked body, I've seen reviews (mostly about the quality of the model rather than the body itself) of life drawing models online and discussed online.
To you would it be wrong to write an unbiased review if the model moved too much or the poses were not interesting enough?

[unoduetre]

I agree with you. That's why the real world prostitution industry is not a good thing. This would not apply in their fictional world where we are talking about the very rare cases of real world prostitution.

Yup.

As an example of someone reviewing their naked body, I've seen reviews (mostly about the quality of the model rather than the body itself) of life drawing models online and discussed online.
To you would it be wrong to write an unbiased review if the model moved too much or the poses were not interesting enough?

Hmm. I think it's ok to say things like: "The model moved too much.", but maybe not ok to say: "I didn't like that her left breast is lower than her right breast." or "This model's penis was too small. He shouldn't be a model."
Obviously it's not a clear-cut thing. I need to think more about it, what things are acceptable and what aren't. I don't have a very strong opinion about this one.

[unoduetre]

Please, let me know, if you want me to continue this thread and if the answer is yes, what anime/"animefeminist" review should I dissect next.

If it's not interesting, I won't do it.

[lolin]

femininism in anime resigns itself mostly to josei, i think

japan is a cruel mister

[lolin]

special mention to reborn! where ALL the female characters were useless or perpetually cooking in the kitchen

[unoduetre]

special mention to reborn! where ALL the female characters were useless or perpetually cooking in the kitchen

Oh, I haven't seen this one.

[lolin]

Oh, I haven't seen this one.

it's a bad generic shounen

[unoduetre]

femininism in anime resigns itself mostly to josei, i think

I'm not sure. I think a good thing about anime is that it's usually not ideology-driven. It doesn't push any ideology down one's throat, like many western media try to do, especially recently.

In anime the plot is the most important and the characters often present different points of view and different ideologies. Which is a good thing.

As josei's target are women, it's natural to show things from women's point of view (but it's not a rule, there are many josei with MCs who are men). So it is "feminist" in this sense, but not necessarily in any other sense.

In general, I think it's better to show why certain characters reached some conclusions and why they believe in certain things, based on their life stories etc.