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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 15:45

trap is deragatory

it outright assumes the transwoman is trying to "trick" a man into sex

it's used to dehumanize transwomen
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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 15:49

What if it's used to describe characters instead of real people?

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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 15:54

it gets used to describe literal trans characters in media too

lily from zombie land saga is canon trans and people refer to her as a trap
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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 16:01

This is what Dakooters has said about the word "trap".

well, when people state that they're trans mtf, it usually comes loaded with a bunch of other misc assumptions

examples being that i want to cut my penis off, that i'll get offended or upset if called anything but she/her, that i'm not okay with the word "trap" and think it's a slur, that i'm politically left-leaning, and a bunch more so i'll clarify my position on a few things

i don't want to cut my penis off, while i feel more comfortable in a female presenting body and voice, i don't believe the technology is quite there yet for me to feel happy replacing my natural born genitalia

it's personally more validating for me if people call me she/her out of their own volition rather than subjecting them to call me by female pronouns regardless, online i don't really care because cis people get misgendered online all the time and if people want to call me he/him then they're free to, i'm confident enough in myself that it doesn't bother me

i'm not personally offended by the word "trap", i know a lot of trans people are but i see it as a compliment

i'm a libertarian centrist

i'm my own person with my own ideas and opinions, people tend to forget that when i say i'm trans, that's why i go by girl (male) instead

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dakooters/comm ... _anything/

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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 16:29

friendship ended with dakooters

can you just like... not use the word?
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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 16:30

seriously this is the kinda shit i get when i fall back into the 4chan hole

it's very polluting
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Post by 2D » 27 May 2020, 16:41

Lolin is 100% about that word :<3:
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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 16:49

Lolin wrote:
27 May 2020, 16:29
friendship ended with dakooters

can you just like... not use the word?

I will definitely not use it toward you. In general I don't use this word (I maybe used it once or twice in my life, if I remember correctly) and it's not a part of my normal vocabulary, but I won't promise I'll never use it, because there might be a situation that this word describes perfectly (actually tricking people into sex). But I definitely won't use it in a derogatory way (unless someone deserves it of course). I only insult people who deserve it and it happens very rarely, mostly when someone hurts me personally.

I might also use it when someone used it before me in a discussion and I want to refer to that usage. I will also use it when discussing the word itself, not using it. (And maybe in other rare situations.) But these are exceptions.

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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 16:53

2D wrote:
27 May 2020, 16:41
Lolin is 100% about that word :<3:

thanks too2ee <3

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Lolin wrote:
27 May 2020, 16:29
friendship ended with dakooters

can you just like... not use the word?

I will definitely not use it toward you. In general I don't use this word (I maybe used it once or twice in my life, if I remember correctly) and it's not a part of my normal vocabulary, but I won't promise I'll never use it, because there might be a situation that this word describes perfectly (actually tricking people into sex). But I definitely won't use it in a derogatory way (unless someone deserves it of course). I only insult people who deserve it and it happens very rarely, mostly when someone hurts me personally.

I might also use it when someone used it before me in a discussion and I want to refer to that usage. I will also use it when discussing the word itself, not using it. (And maybe in other rare situations.) But these are exceptions.

:P

hm

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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 16:54

Of course I will use the word in the other meaning, like mouse trap.

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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 16:58

Lolin wrote:
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friendship ended with dakooters

I'm more curious about this one.

Why couldn't you make friends with Dakooters?

Is it only because she wants/likes to use the word "trap"?

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Post by lolin » 27 May 2020, 17:02

sorry uno i'm done in this thread
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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 17:03

Sure, no worries.

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Post by Jas » 27 May 2020, 17:36

Not cool.

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Post by unoduetre » 27 May 2020, 18:04

@Jas

What is not cool?

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