The great anime evaluation criteria thread

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 27 Jan 2020, 13:29

I've added these. Please let me know, if I missed any points.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by HentaiSenpai » 27 Jan 2020, 13:30

As far as animation goes, you have to look into how the animation is presented. If there are 3d elements, does it improve or negatively impact the overall watching experence.

Is there anything that stands out with the animation ie the attacks in Demon Slayer:
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An example of top quailty (realistic) animation is in Your Name:
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And an example of expressive anime Ping Pong:
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I would put all of these points under Animation.
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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 27 Jan 2020, 13:34

I tried to put what you've shown into words and added these.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by HentaiSenpai » 27 Jan 2020, 15:57

unoduetre wrote:I tried to put what you've shown into words and added these.

Perfect. Words are harder than pictures for me.
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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by Momogari » 27 Jan 2020, 23:29

There's not music anywhere in that list
Music is complicated shit
Using it in animation is complicated shit
I don't know how to analyze it
or maybe I just don't care enough
no, I definitely don't know enough about music whether or not I care

I feel like on one hand, the combination of the fact that the moment art changes or someone does something creative and a new criteria is discovered and that it's always complicated shit that can be framed in different ways--tl;dr its complicated shit--makes this a silly exercise which is probably better served by the taoist-ish approach of not putting shit in boxes and just taking shit case by case; and on the other, people do write books about perfecting craft--eg how to improve your creative writing, so maybe the first hand is just holding bullshit, but if that's so then I feel like there's lots of education and analysis that none of us have much background in and someone who does have that background could fill in a lot of gaps and offer useful formulae or whatever and make this interesting.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by Momogari » 27 Jan 2020, 23:42

Although come to think of it this might be an interesting thing. Or it might not. idk.

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Momogari wrote:I think this show is very good at being exactly what it is and nothing more.

The plot is stupidly simple, the characters are 0.5-dimensional, and...I can't think of anything else. But it's still kinda funny and I enjoy watching it for some reason, and I think part of that is that it doesn't try to have good plot or characters. In any case, I actually wouldn't describe it as shitty. There's a few minor things to like about it but right at this moment it seems more important that I can't think of anything I dislike about it. Nothing that it does poorly that it didn't set its own standard for from the start.
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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by Citizen » 28 Jan 2020, 00:06

You could add pacing to the list. That's another criteria that's pretty subjective too, but I think most people can at least agree that it sucks when a show consistently pads out content (whether it's full-on non-canon filler episodes, excessive recapping, excessive flashbacking, or just slow-as-molassas storytelling that takes 5 episodes to show 1 episode worth of content), or has minimal plot development until the last few episodes when it suddenly decides to shit the entire story out at once in a rush.

Regardless of why they think a show is poorly paced, pacing is something that commonly makes it hard for people to enjoy a series.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by Citizen » 28 Jan 2020, 00:19

Also voice acting. Does the casting fit the characters, are the actors expressive or flat/monotone, is the lip synching done well, etc.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by Citizen » 28 Jan 2020, 00:20

Basically all the same stuff you would judge any non-anime movie or TV series by, except stuff that would only apply to live action media.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by HentaiSenpai » 28 Jan 2020, 01:04

Citizen wrote:You could add pacing to the list. That's another criteria that's pretty subjective too, but I think most people can at least agree that it sucks when a show consistently pads out content (whether it's full-on non-canon filler episodes, excessive recapping, excessive flashbacking, or just slow-as-molassas storytelling that takes 5 episodes to show 1 episode worth of content), or has minimal plot development until the last few episodes when it suddenly decides to shit the entire story out at once in a rush.

Regardless of why they think a show is poorly paced, pacing is something that commonly makes it hard for people to enjoy a series.

+1 filler episodes are shit
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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 28 Jan 2020, 23:38

Citizen wrote:You could add pacing to the list. That's another criteria that's pretty subjective too, but I think most people can at least agree that it sucks when a show consistently pads out content (whether it's full-on non-canon filler episodes, excessive recapping, excessive flashbacking, or just slow-as-molassas storytelling that takes 5 episodes to show 1 episode worth of content), or has minimal plot development until the last few episodes when it suddenly decides to shit the entire story out at once in a rush.

Regardless of why they think a show is poorly paced, pacing is something that commonly makes it hard for people to enjoy a series.

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 28 Jan 2020, 23:41

Citizen wrote:Also voice acting. Does the casting fit the characters, are the actors expressive or flat/monotone, is the lip synching done well, etc.

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Post by unoduetre » 28 Jan 2020, 23:41

HentaiSenpai wrote:+1 filler episodes are shit

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 28 Jan 2020, 23:44

Momogari wrote:There's not music anywhere in that list
Music is complicated shit
Using it in animation is complicated shit
I don't know how to analyze it
or maybe I just don't care enough
no, I definitely don't know enough about music whether or not I care

I feel like on one hand, the combination of the fact that the moment art changes or someone does something creative and a new criteria is discovered and that it's always complicated shit that can be framed in different ways--tl;dr its complicated shit--makes this a silly exercise which is probably better served by the taoist-ish approach of not putting shit in boxes and just taking shit case by case; and on the other, people do write books about perfecting craft--eg how to improve your creative writing, so maybe the first hand is just holding bullshit, but if that's so then I feel like there's lots of education and analysis that none of us have much background in and someone who does have that background could fill in a lot of gaps and offer useful formulae or whatever and make this interesting.

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Sorry, don't shoot me. I ain't trained for this shit; good anime is good.

We are all just fans. This doesn't pretend to be an exercise in art criticism. Let's not treat it too seriously. :)

But it might still be useful to have a list like that. :)

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Re: The great anime evaluation criteria thread

Post by unoduetre » 28 Jan 2020, 23:49

Momogari wrote:Although come to think of it this might be an interesting thing. Or it might not. idk.

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I've added the following criteria: "it delivers what it initially promised". Please, let me know, if this is what you meant.

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