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    1. #1

      Overly revealing cosplay?

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      When people cosplay it in cons, it's basically free porn.

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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      thanks for the porn uno
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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

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      It's just cosplay!

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      Of course it is porn.



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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3





      just cuz I don't get to use this often lol
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      Overly revealing cosplay?

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      I wonder what you think about this kind of thing. They're faithful to the anime. But it still is obviously porn.

      So:

      1. It is ok.
      or
      2. They should hide their bodies with some material in the bodily colour.
      or
      3. They should not cosplay these characters at all.
      or
      4. …

      What's your take on this one?



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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Quote Originally Posted by unoduetre View Post
      @Momogari

      I wonder what you think about this kind of thing. They're faithful to the anime. But it still is obviously porn.

      So:

      1. It is ok.
      or
      2. They should hide their bodies with some material in the bodily colour.
      or
      3. They should not cosplay these characters at all.
      or
      4. …

      What's your take on this one?
      I don't see any rationale for claiming it's inappropriate nor do I personally feel any disapproval for it.
      My prudishness is not in this.
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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Granted, when you consider that 1) scantily clad characters are blatantly an attempt to use sex to get viewership and 2) being faithful to the anime would entail doing the same... well, it's not something I would do.

      But it's not my problem, either.
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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      For me it's a really difficult question.

      I mean, I don't have any prudishness, that's not a part of the question for me.

      It's more like:
      1. Normal porn is (in general, often) harmful to women. Let's call the harmful one "coercive porn". It's because of the culture surrounding it. It's difficult to distinguish between coercive vs non-coercive one.
      2. Nudity out of cultural context or in a proper cultural context is not harmful to anyone.
      3. Cosplay is just fun and it's not harmful to anyone. (But there are psycho fans of course.)
      4. Cosplay can turn into coercive porn and coercive porn can use cosplay as a fetish (or for whatever other reason). Coercive porn can pretend to be just cosplay.

      I'm still thinking about the right answer to that.

      So I donno.



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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Outside of otherwise already coercive circumstances, I don't see how voluntary cosplay can become coercive porn.

      I mean I can run across the street naked and having exercised that judgement, I don't think I have any right to say what people do with the pictures.
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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Yeah.



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      Re: Overly revealing cosplay?

      I guess I should have read more carefully. Your 'coercive porn' was just an insufficient phrase for a vaguer issue.
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      Re: Overly revealing cosplay?

      Yeah, sorry, I don't have a better word. You can propose one.



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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Well in that case.

      the characters being in their fukkin skivvies is already a part of misogynizing culture.
      That seems a good reason not to support that by parody.
      But the choice to do so or not is also a matter of free speech.
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      Re: Last episode you watched (or chapter you read) v3

      Cosplay Levels
      5 - Innocent, mostly concealed
      4 - Fan service
      3 - Fan service with toys
      2 - Fan service with friends
      1 - Police Raid
      0 - Political Scandal

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      Re: Overly revealing cosplay?

      EXACTLY

      Eh, the world is too complicated!



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